Questions without notice

Child protection—Hon Don Punch

17 September 2025 • Parliament of Western Australia

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468. Mr Basil Zempilas to the Premier: I refer to the judgement delivered on 9 September 2025 in DB v the State of Western Australia, which awarded the plaintiff almost $3 million in damages for the child sexual abuse he suffered while he was a ward of the state. (1) Does the Premier commit to never appointing Minister Punch as the Minister for Child Protection or Acting Minister for Child— Several members interjected. The Speaker: Members! Several members interjected. The Speaker: Members! Thank you. We have a point of order. Mr Basil Zempilas interjected. The Speaker: Leader of the Opposition! Attorney General. Point of order Dr Tony Buti: Mr Speaker, I ask you to look at standing order 77(2)—if I remember correctly, it is footnote 42—about seeking personal opinions from a minister about a matter— Several members interjected. Dr Tony Buti: It is a point of order. The Speaker: Yes, it is a point of order. Dr Tony Buti: Further, a legal opinion is not to be asked for. Legal and personal opinions about a matter should not be asked in questions. Several members interjected. The Speaker: Members! Ms Amber-Jade Sanderson interjected. The Speaker: Minister! I will take some advice on this. Ms Amber-Jade Sanderson interjected. The Speaker: Minister—thank you. I am not going to uphold that point of order. However, I will say that if the Leader of the Opposition is implying that something illegal or immoral has happened in the past, he can do so by way of a substantive motion. This is not the place to do those things. The member can reframe that question. Questions without notice resumed Mr Basil Zempilas: My question is to the Premier. (1) Does the Premier commit to never appointing Minister Punch as the Minister for Child Protection or Acting Minister for Child Protection? (2) While Minister Punch remains in cabinet, will the Premier ensure that he is never involved in any decision-making or discussions on child protection matters in cabinet?
Mr Roger Cook replied: (1)–(2) As a member of Parliament and a member of the community, I think we all acknowledge the bravery of any young victim who comes forward in the face of particularly heinous circumstances—in this case, abuse by a member of that family. We acknowledge the bravery of that member of the community for coming forward and thank him for continuing to hold up a mirror to our society. We can always do better, Mr Speaker. This gentleman was able to come forward in a court of law because of the changes that we made to the limitation period for historic sex abuse claims. We made that change in 2018 so that victims like this gentleman could pursue compensation. It is important that we put these matters on the record. First, Minister Punch was never called as a witness at the trial—never called. He attended a single case conference in an acting capacity nearly 40 years ago. No decisions were made at this single preliminary conference. Let us be clear about this. Forty years ago, the member in question attended a single preliminary conference in an acting role within the department. The minister was not involved in subsequent decisions regarding the placement of Mr Barber. I repeat—was not involved in subsequent decisions regarding the placement of Mr Barber. As the court found, the horrific circumstances detailed in the case came as a result of the procedures and policies of the Department of Child Protection at the time and, ultimately, decisions made by the director general. These policies included the goal of family reunification, which was a central tenet and priority for the department at the time. This reflected the way that the government worked at the time. It does not reflect today's victim-centred approach. As I said, this was 40 years ago. The world and the department have changed significantly in that time. Minister Punch came to Western Australia as a troubled youth at the age of 14 from the United Kingdom to live with extended family in this country. Following this time of growing up in the south-west or Western Australia, he went on to study and became a social worker. He went on to become a proud member of our public sector and a leader in our public sector. There is no-one else in this chamber, potentially, who has more understanding about the troubles of growing up in troubled families than Minister Punch. The insinuation comes as a direct quote from Hon Nick Goiran's question in the other place yesterday. That says a lot about the motives going on here. Mr Basil Zempilas interjected. The Speaker: Leader of the Opposition! Mr Roger Cook: I find the insinuation fundamentally insulting and offensive, and I proudly stand by Minister Punch and the incredible role he is playing in serving the people of Western Australia. The Speaker: Members, that concludes question time.
  • avatar of Roger Cook RC

    Roger Cook
    ALP WA

    Premier

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  • avatar of Basil Zempilas BZ

    Basil Zempilas
    LP WA

    Leader of the Opposition
  • avatar of Nick Goiran NG

    Nick Goiran
    LP WA

    Shadow Attorney General
  • avatar of Don Punch DP

    Don Punch
    ALP WA

    Minister for Aboriginal Affairs